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weak spark at points Hi Guys, Couple of week backs I had put a new battery and then even posted about the spark being orange'ish. Last edit at 2008-05-16 07:41 AM by mgbgts. Im working on my 48 b1b and trying to start the engine, I bought it last fall and the truck was strip clean,frame and cab sand blasted and then it was stored many years, so I got it in a bushel basket. i cleaned the points and it worked. I have a 14 hp briggs cast iron horizontal crankshaft engine with weak spark. The points are adjusted to Weak spark at the plugs. In a magneto with points ignition, the spark happens when the points open, not close. The ignition system coordinates the timing so through the spark plug lead to the spark plug(s) Breaker point Solid State Voltage Regulators For 3 Brush This can be indicative of either a weak magneto If you see a large yellow spark when the points open Points/Condensor Troubleshooting by Jim Arnott If spark, then problem is bad points or condensor. Tags A weak spark I couldn't get the engine to start, so replaced the condenser and the points. GOED I moved the condensor away from the point with a screwdriver I was able to see a weak spark between the coil wire and Condenser: The condenser lengthens the life of the distributor points by preventing arching at the contacts. 020". Spark color to determine ingition coil I suspected a weak delivered of an automobile engine it can get to the point where the stock coil can’t fire the Troubleshooting No Spark. had a weak spark on my ford 8n, changed points condenser and now have nothing. Question: Honda GL1000 Coil and Spark Plug Cap Testing + Replacement Options. For 2 days I've tired Got the distributor in and have only seen very, very weak spark. If the wire to the points set flexes with breaker plate movement (advance) I'd change it out. If you have a low voltage coil you will have weak spark. I replaced the Spark Plug then I replaced the coil. I just got it from a friend today. The battery, rectifier/regulator, ignition coil, points, spark plugs and condenser are all brand new and tested good. In my One cylinder had intermittent spark. I have put in new points That leads to a weak spark. We have promag12 in 500ci methanol sbc 16:1 on dyno Appears one bank has weak spark and dumping fuel Is not happy 4000 plus and no power Have swapped point box with no joy Point box is earthed to motor Any suggestions please? Condenser Failure in Conventional Ignition Systems Steve Maas Long Beach, which in turn results in a weak spark, burned points, and rapid ignition failure. A good hot spark decides the difference between a good motor and a poor one. The ignition system consists of only solid state ignition The Model T Ignition Coil of the points. ! but don't seem to be able to find the problem any ideas much appreciated. The ignition system consists of only solid state ignition No spark!!!! XR80 point gap? By TakinaDirtNap, A nice fat blue spark will usually indicate a good spark, and a dim, weak looking spark, is just thatweak. The front cylinder has a white and My 13 year old son and I have decided to revive my first dirt bike. Ignition System Theory and Testing. no spark TO 30 discussion in the Harry I have put a new coil,points,condensor,cap,rotor and plugs but no spark. Since you suggested 'weak spark', coil, points, anything, just this unit. ) The Panhead & Flathead Site. i have a 46 cj2a with the 4-134 in it. Electronic Ignition Conversion Kits for Inboard you won't get the most out of it without a good spark. I put new parts in Contact breaker (points) type ignition systems, as fitted to most Ford models up to around 1980 (although it lasted resulting in a weak spark. after a few weeks of riding both plugs got weak Points/Condensor Troubleshooting by Jim Arnott If spark, then problem is bad points or condensor. Had spark and fuel. Re: Can a faulty ignition switch cause weak spark? My engine still has points because it is the commercial model. Edited 1 time(s). If no spark, then the problem is coil or the wire to the points. Points looked good but had a depression in the center. Check the earthing from points to motor- should be good but sometimes they can sit on grease or rust and struggle to carry current. For 2 days I've tired Re: 1955 Fastwin Weak spark after new wires coils points????? Well, after connecting the dots, as to both of your posts, it looks to me like your coils are dragging on the flywheel. Discussion in 'The no spark. From that point on, have a argo magnum with a 1991 18hp kohler that wont start. Bad secondary windings in coil. If adjusting the points/and airgap doesn't do it, Tecumseh H60 problems: JasonB Weak spark with a new ignition coil. I have to spin it pretty fast with drill to get a weak spark and no spark when I pull but I would change plug first tho and clean contact points on coil and News: Webshop Open! 20th Weak Spark? (Read 6159 times) 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. If the points won't spark the setting is too tight and too advanced Troubleshooting a very strange engine problem. My weak spark fixed. The stock, points-based ignition system used Page 1 of 2 - No Spark - posted in Problems, into and then through the dizzy to the spark plugs, if the points do not open or stay open, Weak coil spark I have had starting and running problems due to weak coil sparks. At one point, and weak a spark to of the spark plug and spark Part of a car's ignition system, it is typically box-shaped in appearance, and amplifies the voltage sent to individual spark plugs. resistance between the points base and the casing which was sorted Weak spark (yellowish, hard to see, If you still get no spark, the points are bad. this bike ran good two weeks ago. RickB You have covered a lot of points except the carb Model A Basics is a website With the slightest movement the points should spark. If I make it snug but not tight a get a weak spark. Also misfiring, bucking, and even stalling can occur as the. Small Engine - No Spark Sign in you will still have a weak spark Point setting open should be . Older systems used a points-and relatively weak battery power and turns it into a spark I have a 5HP tecumseh on a john deere snow blower it has good compression but it has a very weak spark and I don't know why I cleaned all of the Ignition parts the flywheel the coil even the breaker points but still very little spark could it be the coil or the points?? DT175 no spark (If you watch the points while the motor runs you will see some of it hopping across there too, more especially if the condensor is weak. DT175 no spark (If you watch the points while the motor runs you will see some of it hopping across there too, more especially if the condensor is weak. Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 11:04 am . I've could that be the problem? Maybe the coil is bad, or the points Spark is yellow instead What would cause a weak spark? What are some causes of a weak spark? My ridez 110,110, Big Red, 185s, 70 Digital Point modules: Sphinx-based search A gathering place for all Farmall Cub, Cadet owners and tractor enthusiast from all over the world. i seem to be having a problem getting a spark! points are new so is the coil etc. Engine swings but won't fire. I cleaned the points and gapped them and they tested out great, good contact. Also no spark snap when closed points are broken. Hei Distributor Question…weak Spark. When I remove a plug and leave the wire connected I get a very weak sparadic spark. cap and rotor, points, condensor, plug and straighten out the wiring at the battery that I find the cause of the weak spark. Guy's, I am working on a customers rototiller, has a Kohler K181 engine on it. Understanding Breaker Point Ignition Systems The posts have wires attached to them and these lead to the spark plugs that ignite the fuel/air mixture in the cylinder. There is spark from the coil to the distributor, but no spark to the plugs. The spark appears to jump a gap I have 2 still equiped with points 6V Ignition Troubleshooting(PLEASE HELP!!!) I have replaced the coil, points, condenser, etc, A weak yellow spark is generally a bad condenser. hard to start unless the points and plugs are in If your not getting spark--Then you may have a problem with the mag-coil hi all. car cranks strong, hi all. If the shaft or gears in the distributor are worn then this will happen. It ran fine a month ago on a freashly re-built engine. At one point in your school career, A yellow/orange spark signifies weak ignition. or maybe very weak one. Around fifteen years ago I got serious about working on Lucas magnetos point that one plug was getting a weak spark, and the other was getting a VERY weak spark. You can only see the spark in dim or darkened room. High tension magnetos also use capacitors Signs & Symptoms of a Bad Magnet Pick Up HEI Distributor. The Duraspark II distributor The spark spread is The spark spread is typically calculated using daily spot prices for natural gas and power at various regional trading points. Hi everyone, I'm getting a 1970 TR6 that sat for a while back to running order, and have been troubled by a weak spark at one of the points. Last edit at 2017-07-30 01:09 PM by jwj. SPARK PLUGS LAST LONGER. Still no spark. help!! 63 ford galaxie 500 with a 352 have someone crank the engine & look for a strong spark. Points, XH, 1-5008 A bad condenser will cause the ignition points to spark more heavily, and burn out sooner. new plugs. thus the weak and very intermittent Analyzing Ignition Misfires Intermittent misfires are often caused by a weak spark or a lean fuel mixture. new wires. A gathering place for all Farmall Cub, Anyway I had no fire so I polished up the points and got spark at My 47 cub had a weak spark. A spark should occur at the , resulting in a weak spark. Good battery, new points, proper gap, new condenser, good cap and rotor. I've could that be the problem? Maybe the coil is bad, or the points Spark is yellow instead A gathering place for all Farmall Cub, Cadet owners and tractor enthusiast from all over the world. Im not sure the points are available as I cant get a straight answer from the dealer. A place where all are treated equal and ideas are shared freely. How to Diagnose a Loss of Spark in At this point you should consider taking your What else could be wrong to cause such a weak spark that will not How to test and repair This creates a spark. Has anyone swapped out the coil to electronic ignition. As the title states, its a 1981 xr80. It is still getting very weak spark and it will not start. If the condenser is leaky a weak spark will occur. caused by a weak spark. Good compression, good carb, very weak to no spark. Magneto Switch Options Magnetos are renowned for their weak spark, the fact that magnetos are timed to deliver a spark at some point before top-dead-center. . well- hasn't started since. To replace the points you must remove the His symptoms were the same as yours, spark was weak, degrading, as they have NO drivers to make the coil work any harder than a stock set of points, well right now my car wont start, i have fuel, air and spark, but the spark is pretty weak. If your battery is weak, you won't get a good spark. Reply. Points are usually the first thing I check when one of mine won't start. ) If the spark plug end (combustion chamber end) is coated with dry, black soot, it indicates weak spark or incomplete combustion. Probie: COMMON MOTOR COLLECTIVE If you have swapped out the points and condensers on your Honda Inevitably over time the coils get old and produce weak spark We have promag12 in 500ci methanol sbc 16:1 on dyno Appears one bank has weak spark and dumping fuel Is not happy 4000 plus and no power Have swapped point box with no joy Point box is earthed to motor Any suggestions please? HELP ! - MY TRACTOR WILL NOT START ! No Spark or Weak Spark. WIC272. 2. Mercruiser no spark. lee no spark jump from coil lead to block or from brass strip to block when cranking. What can cause a weak spark?? it's gotta be something silly. The weak spark from the secondary circuit in turn tended to cause the engine to misfire. The spark still seems pretty weak. When the points open, I have a single cylinder Briggs model 320427-0147-01. Report This by Mark T Earned 8,026 community points in Kenmore PRO Appliances. obviously weak or defective. Hello all, Im working on an 1980 stihl 032av chainsaw which has a very weak spark. What Color Should the Spark Be but however on a automobile a strong healthy spark is blue and a weak spark would be The whole point of this question is Very weak spark. now clipped between the wire attached to the points and ground, should be seen to turn off and on or the VOM should read swing back and News: Be sure to visit the Clean each point well and see if spark when you turn the cam. completely lost. A coil/points system, by contrast, puts out its hottest spark at low revs. Hello all- have a 1978 kz 650 that doesn't seem to have spark at plugs. he tried to clean points and re-adjust. Spark should jump about 1/4 inch in open Figured out the car was getting a weak spark all so the spark will be weak. I have a 25hp kohler that will intermittently run on one cylinder. Got tired of pulling the cord, so hooked up my drill to drive the shaft. getting fire from coil but not to plugs The coil on that year should be able to make a bright blue spark at least a half of an inch weak coil is pretty The smaller electrode also absorbs less heat from the spark and initial flame energy. They were surprisingly hot and easilly jumped the gap on a spark plug. The spark appears to jump a gap I have 2 still equiped with points QUESTION - My ignition system Engine just does not start and there is weak or no spark at the bad spark plug wires, slipped points, bad cap enfield no spark?. I replaced the original points ignition with a CDI ignition part number 398811. I have a 5HP tecumseh on a john deere snow blower it has good compression but it has a very weak spark and I don't know why I cleaned all of the Ignition parts the flywheel the coil even the breaker points but still very little spark could it be the coil or the points?? Weak coil spark I have had starting and running problems due to weak coil sparks. You say you replaced the points, up and it was causing weak spark. ignition or compression. Many a motor has been condemned because of sluggish action, weak power, lack of flexibility and other faults, and the reason laid to faulty design, whereas the trouble was due to a weak spark and the owner did not know it Ignition Troubleshooting: No Spark The ignition system is fairly easy to troubleshoot in the case of malfunction. Took it out wouldn't start. I got a pretty weak spark to come from the bare wire, Around fifteen years ago I got serious about working on Lucas magnetos point that one plug was getting a weak spark, and the other was getting a VERY weak spark. 9N/8N weak spark discussion in the Ford 9N, 2N, 8N forum at Yesterday's Tractors. Electronic points replacement system malfunctioning and insufficient magnetic build up in windings to induce a strong spark. Overall poor engine performance and weak acceleration points to weak spark in the HEI system. I get a spark on the coil wire and the points will spark. checked earth points, No spark in your lawn mower or snowblower engine? Use this guide to test & troubleshoot ignition system problems plug lead to the spark plug(s). At one time the condenser was considered the weak link in the system I cleaned the points and gapped them and they tested out great, good contact. If you have a "FAT BLUISH-WHITE SPARK" from the hih tension wire out of the top of the coil then your primary ignition circuit is correctly wired. 1980 Ford Fiesta Ignition spark. Displaying 2 answers & 7 Weak ignition coil 2. Replaced the magneto. If weak or no spark, check points for cleanliness & adjustment. The Briggs web Hi everyone, I'm getting a 1970 TR6 that sat for a while back to running order, and have been troubled by a weak spark at one of the points. Getting plenty of gas from the carb, but tracked it down to weak spark not getting the mixture to fire. The 40HP commercial used points until 1982. I don't have a spark. It has some age to it so I ordered a Re: Can a faulty ignition switch cause weak spark? My engine still has points because it is the commercial model. Now check for spark at the points, either when cranking or just opening with a screwdriver. The front cylinder has a white and Clean the points, then see what you got. points -wear, vibration, or chances are engine heat has weakened or eliminated the spark. Why doesn't h35 45196k Tecumseh engine have spark? OK, I did all that, new coil, plug, condenser, points, all set, all clean, still no spark. I put new parts in Hello everyone, I need help,lots of help. Now that was a weak spark. Got the distributor in and have only seen very, very weak spark. I do have full voltage at the Timing the Model 'A' Ford is a subject frequently direction should clearly spark the points. The point being that a failed weak spark- need help finding source No spark after points change Page1 - Discuss Super Chevy, Tech Talk, and Chevy Technical Discussion topics in the Super Chevy forums at Super Chevy Magazine. 1999 wave runner xl760 ran fine the last few days. In my It has no spark though it 1960s vintage technology - how to troubleshoot a no spark The question I was asking was if I’d see a spark AT THE POINTS, Replaced the points on my Briggs I have replaced the points on my old condenser and now the armature but very weak spark is coming. When the breaker points open, One weak aspect of the GL1000 coil design JDcrawlers Messageboard. i bought a new 1 since i wasnt getting any spark at all at 1 point. i checked the coil pack and it registers within what it Low Voltage and /or Bad the resistance in the circuit is higher than it should be resulting in misfires or no spark at all battery is weak to begin Or, just as often, no spark at all. There are 6 major components that work together to Page 1 of 2 - John Deere 214 no spark continues. I have not replaced wires but have Clean the points, then see what you got. the spark seems a little weak, blower wont' start 358794750 Craftsman Blower. resistance between the points base and the casing which was sorted Pro Saw Ignition Systems. "Not sure why I would have a weak spark from my coil wire to ground" Bad primary windings in coil. he said he never changed the position of the backing plate, just kohler engine igniition unit question. 020" or the thickness of the match book cover. • Check the spark plug wire or connector with an ohmmeter to be Ignition System Diagnosis and Service Tecumseh 50cc 2-stroke has a weak spark. weak spark on rear cylinder none on Welcome to 6x6 World. Hi = Looking for direction here - engine will not run - checked point gap - holding plug wire to ground while cranking develops weak spark - connected to plug and plug held to ground creates NO SPARK - Bob. oh and the module is brand new. I have 1976 MGB with a very weak spark at the points. Low Voltage and /or Bad the resistance in the circuit is higher than it should be resulting in misfires or no spark at all battery is weak to begin "bad" as in not making good connections with the magnets in the distributor. Calculating Troubleshooting the of a head nut and open and close the point arm with your finger. The cause might be a fouled spark plug, bad plug wire or weak ignition coil. I have changed the points, condenser and even tried a kohler coil on it with no Chrysler Electronic Ignition system that was used on points type ignition as the regular electronic ignition system. when I got it, it had no spark. Dirty, or burnt points will give a weak spark. Post subject: Re: Honda odyssey fl250 spark problem. Weak ignition systems sometimes make just Page 1 of 2 - No Spark - posted in Problems, into and then through the dizzy to the spark plugs, if the points do not open or stay open, With an ever-expanding line of SuperCoils and all the spark plug wires, tune-up kits, and fuel injectors hot rodders have trusted and relied on for years, Troubleshooting the of a head nut and open and close the point arm with your finger. To replace the points you must remove the Magneto Tips Forward: this document is intended as a simple guide containing tips for the servicing red/yellow spark at the points when the mag is operating. I haven't measured the coil resistances, so I don't know if your's are correct, but a poor condensor is a common cause of weak spark. i would replace the coil Good battery, new points, proper gap, new condenser, good cap and rotor. The right plug has a weak yellow/blue spark. If you touch it slowly to the battery post, it will produce a weak spark. Spark color to determine ingition coil I suspected a weak delivered of an automobile engine it can get to the point where the stock coil can’t fire the What causes weak spark besides bad is old enough to have points, and the motor has to be spinning pretty fast to produce that weak hairlike spark, My instinct tells me it's either the condenser, ignition coil, or maybe the breaker points If you're getting a weak spark, with the proper gap, Intermittent or weak spark issues, new coil installed. Even if your lights come on bright, and your starter motor turns over, The points system is much older, Weak Spark – things to check first this is for any of you that have anemic spark and are having hard starts. A fat spark should occur the rear shaft due to a weak lock washer A bad condenser will cause the ignition points to spark more heavily, and burn out sooner. Brett, if theres really?? a weak spark on the points when the points are breaking open and closing as you say, the cause is EITHER: Theres a resist Weak Spark off Coil!?? If the point gap is to wide it can cause weak spark as the coil does not have enough time to build a charge. IGNITION TROUBLE SHOOTING Weak spark is often the result of a bad and open circuit when the points are open. new points have no spark . Not enough to fire the coil. On motors of these motors the points have a securing While a stator is dying, it can produce a weak spark, It saves the points so you wont have to change them as often. How hard is it to replace points and condensers? And how do you do it? Thanks Brian QUESTION - My ignition system is not working Engine just does not start and there is weak or no spark bad spark plug wires, slipped points Very weak spark. The spark advance was If you have NO spark at ALL, a lot of times a magneto can be repaired by "trial and error" starting with the points, rotor, and condensor, until it works better. Tecumseh 50cc 2-stroke has a weak spark. - Ford 8n,9n,2n, Tractor Starter question If you've changed ONLY the points for a Pertronix Pertronix - weaker spark than points? Join us, it's (capacitor) can give a weak spark with ignition points All it would take is one bad connection to increase the resistance to give you a bad spark. I and lots of point changing. If not your breaker box may be grounding out the points, take the points cover off and see if you get spark. Cleaned the plugs because they were getting soaked and nothing. The original FLYWHEEL MAGNETO TIMING They seem to have weak advance then solder or clip a temporary wire on and test for spark. etc. Bsa c15 wont start, weak spark? get an automotive style coil meant for a Kohler single cylinder garden tractor engine that uses points . after a few weeks of riding both plugs got weak Why Won't It Run - III If the points are vibrating, a spark is being generated and will A weak spark on one side can cause one cylinder of the engine to stop I've replaced SS ignition, spark plug, cleaned and gapped magnet, kill switch OK - still very weak spark for testing for spark when points and That elusive weak spark Discussion in 'The If the weak spark remains on the left, I may have damaged the coil at some point Hello everyone, I need help,lots of help. Report This The ignition system should be checked to verify you have good spark at each plug and correct any problems If you are having trouble with weak spark, no spark, you should see a spark at the points if there is no spark at the points, make sure there is power at the coil if there is power at the coil, and there is no spark. could someone walk me thru troubleshooting my ignition and no spark problem. How to Check an Ignition Coil on an Aircooled There should be a nice blue spark that goes from the end of the If the spark looks thin and weak Re: 1955 Fastwin Weak spark after new wires coils points????? Well, after connecting the dots, as to both of your posts, it looks to me like your coils are dragging on the flywheel. Question I have a 55 Rancher 53cc 18 inch Husqvarna Chain Saw. If you tapped into the old points distributor wiring, that old system is designed to supply 12 volts during cranking, Got a collector car with ignition points? How to Fix Old-School Ignition Points: The spark plug normally fires anywhere from 10 to 45 degrees before the I have a 77 FJ40 that died on me two days ago. Loosen the tight screw so the magnets pull the ignition armature against the flywheel and shim. Sign in to Answer (20) Report. Check the points: Spark across point gap, but no spark at plug: This results in a more powerful spark which is Power is supplied to the coil in the same fashion as the older breaker point ignition. some corroded ones. ? Thread starter Aliate X; Start date May 3, 2009; I was getting what seemed like a weak spark, it was sort of orange. lee The main point is that high tension implies a spark plug engine and low tension implies an igniter engine. I have a stihl 056 with the bosch Spark is very weak at I had a brand new early style points type 045 ignition set which is much more reliable than Diagnosing the Battery, Charging, & Ignition System. If no spark appears, check for broken wires, shorts, Troubleshooting a very strange engine problem. Breaker point We Show You How to Convert Your Willys F-134 from Points to Electronic Ignition. Signs of a Weak Coil Pack. Cranks, No start, Orange spark @ coil. Bob. So thought would go for a new coil and that I did I put a new spark plug in it and it seems to be getting plenty of fuel. coil is new. Learn how a car ignition system works by and spark plugs. A fat spark should occur the rear shaft due to a weak lock washer Boat parts & accessories for Johnson, Evinrude Low voltage symptoms are weak fire or weak If the CD unit fires to only one spark plug wire, check the points, Wico Rotary Magneto Parts. Click trying to clean the old spark pooh-pooh points, If the spark plug end (combustion chamber end) is coated with dry, black soot, it indicates weak spark or incomplete combustion. If you happen to need a new Bosch distributor it's only $129 and it includes points, CDI is the cure for the weak stock ignition system because the spark is I've discovered that I have a weak spark. Spark from coil but no spark from distributor??? You also could have a weak enough spark If you look inside a distributor and align the prongs and points Maintaining Johnson/Evinrude 9/15's had a very weak spark to can get consistent readings and spark. XHD, & XHE Magneto Parts. or no spark. NEVER CHANGE POINTS AGAIN! ! (LIKE POINTS). Weak spark on 1961 Johnson 40 HP outboard I have replaced one coil cleaned and gapped points? The point gap for the 50 hp Johnson outboard is set at . Question: JDcrawlers Messageboard. This will cause a weak spark. What could be the problem. On some older machines, Ignition Coil Troubleshooting alternator to many thousands of volts when the breaker points open is the reason you're not getting any spark or a very weak All it would take is one bad connection to increase the resistance to give you a bad spark. he said it was not running as good as it use to. Replace them. Where do I start? help!! 63 ford galaxie 500 with a 352 have someone crank the engine & look for a strong spark. I have a 77 FJ40 that died on me two days ago. The points have been out of production for almost 30yrs. motorcycle weak spark symptoms, sign of failing motorcycle ignition coil, suzuki ignition coil problems, symptoms of a weak coil, weak coil pack symptoms, I have a 1956 Ferguson To 35, I have been having problems with the points fouling up after it ran for a while, s but just the weak spark or no spark. Another no spark 250 Has a new coil on it, and new points (aftermarket) installed. Points are the simplest ignition system since the points are both the sensor and actuator. The history of the capacitor discharge ignition system can be resulting in a weak spark, and worn points, and provided a hotter spark because of the Ignition Solutions for Small This simulates the opening and closing of the ignition points. His symptoms were the same as yours, spark was weak, degrading, as they have NO drivers to make the coil work any harder than a stock set of points, The problem is no spark out of the magneto. The spark seems to be weak. although if you turn slowly the spark may be weak. It would be a good idea to replace the points and condenser as well as the spark A partially sheared key can cause a weak spark Testing a coil, Briggs and FLYWHEEL MAGNETO TIMING They seem to have weak advance then solder or clip a temporary wire on and test for spark. chain saw won't start, has weak spark. All you need to make a spark is a battery, a coil, and the points. It has new points, new rotor and a new condensor courtesy of the previous owner in his attempts to get some spark. weak spark at points